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  • Lifetime WAR leaders by MLB franchise (position players only)

    These data visualizations are hypnotic: You can watch as cream literally rises to the top. @BetweenTheNums is gradually working through all 30 MLB teams.

    https://twitter.com/BetweenTheNums/s...urAmTssLiSFx-A

    Angels all-time WAR leaders

    The longest fallow periods were for Cleveland from late 50s until early 90s and the Browns from 20s until the 60s, after they became the Orioles. It's fun waiting for the inevitable names like Aaron, Mays, Trout, etc. to pop up and then quickly assert themselves.

    Sox aren't included yet, but I look forward to that.

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    They finally made their way to the White Sox over the weekend.

    https://twitter.com/BetweenTheNums/s...76125650272257

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    • #3
      Originally posted by notjimrose View Post
      They finally made their way to the White Sox over the weekend.

      https://twitter.com/BetweenTheNums/s...76125650272257
      That's pretty cool. Thanks.
      Nellie had more doubles than strikeouts every year from 1950 to 1963, and more triples (12) than strikeouts (11) in 1951 (682 plate appearances.)

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      • #4
        It's an honor to be listed just ahead of Paul Konerko.

        But WAR is a sham statistic. How can slap hitter Nellie Fox be #4 on the list? It's all about SLG and OBP.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FielderJones View Post
          It's an honor to be listed just ahead of Paul Konerko.

          But WAR is a sham statistic. How can slap hitter Nellie Fox be #4 on the list? It's all about SLG and OBP.
          Well he put up 21 DWAR through his career. That included an 18 DWAR from age 23-32. For comparison sake there have been 4 players in the last 5 full years who have exceeded a 1.8 DWAR while playing 2B. 2 others tied that mark. Fox AVERAGED it for 10 straight years.

          Of course it was different era. The ball was a lot more dead and they used them a lot longer so offensive stats aren't what they are today.

          However, in Nellie's 2 highest WAR seasons 1957 (7.9) and 1959 (6.1, MVP) he posted a 124 and 114 OPS+ and slugged over .400 both years while tying his single season career high for HR of 6 both years. He only slugged over .400 one other time. By hitting standards of the day he was actually very average for his career coming in at a 94 OPS+.

          Just for the sake of comparison, on the other end of the spectrum is Frank Thomas who actually managed to post a -22.5 DWAR for his career (not a typo) but outpaced Fox by over 40 OWAR 80.4 to 37.3. OWAR is more heavily weighted than DWAR when calculating WAR and you can't just add them together to get WAR. I don't know why, but that's what it says and maybe someone else can better explain how the formula works. Still Nellie managed to increase his White Sox career WAR by 12 net points over his OWAR just from his defense while Frank's decreased by 7.

          All stats are from BBRef site if people want to go digging but their White Sox WAR matches what is shown in the graphic and all this was just for fun. Not laying any judgment. Obviously they were both great players.
          Riding Shotgun on the Sox Bandwagon since before there was an Internet...



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