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    Documentary from the perspective of the hitters who has the honor of facing Nolan Ryan will be in theaters only one day, May 24th (anniversary of his last no-no). No indication of it will be streamed after that. I would guess some streaming service would get it, otherwise it would be a huge financial loss.

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    That guy is my favorite pitcher all time. when i lived in Texas, i would sit behind home plate in Arlington Stadium, and man, no one could pop a glove like Nolan Ryan . i was at his 5k strikeout game, and the game where he head-locked Ventura . took quite awhile to live that down . he could be a dick, but was devastating on the mound.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dumpjerry View Post
      Documentary from the perspective of the hitters who has the honor of facing Nolan Ryan will be in theaters only one day, May 24th (anniversary of his last no-no). No indication of it will be streamed after that. I would guess some streaming service would get it, otherwise it would be a huge financial loss.
      Which is, believe it or not, a viable strategy for niche productions. Tax write offs...

      Anyway. Most films don't get any up front distribution money and have to wait years for payoff anyway after paying to get onto VOD services. Most of the non studio productions lucky enough to secure a good distribution deal still languish in tentpole and festival exhibition phase for a while.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Harwar View Post
        That guy is my favorite pitcher all time. when i lived in Texas, i would sit behind home plate in Arlington Stadium, and man, no one could pop a glove like Nolan Ryan . i was at his 5k strikeout game, and the game where he head-locked Ventura . took quite awhile to live that down . he could be a dick, but was devastating on the mound.
        In his next-to-last season, I went to see him at Comiskey. He was warming up in the CF Buillpen. Nothing special going on.

        Usher came along and told us (bunch of us were along the wall watching him) it was time to take our seats for the National Anthem.

        As we were heading into the Bleacher benches with our backs to the Bullpen, everyone suddenly jumped at the sound of an 18 wheeler blowing all 18 tires at once at high speed. We turned around just in time to see a very faint white blur go into the Catcher's mitt with the same POP sound. Followed by another one. Everyone smiled as we saw what we came out for.

        During the game, my buddy and I were doing our walk around which we always did at Comiskey. The Sox were up when we were behind Home and was watched the radar guns of the Advanced Scouts registering 102 MPH pitches from him. This was in the 5ht or 6th inning and he was over 40 years old! Amazing.

        Oh, this game was a week after he one-hit us in Arlington on a Ron Kittle bloop single that "had eyes" for a complete game effort.

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        • #5
          The Rays announcers were talking about Ryan today when he pitched a game in 1974 in which he threw 235 pitches in 13 innings while striking out 19, he was pulled after 13 and his Angels won the game in the 15th inning 4-3.
          I guess they didn't care about pitch counts.

          Billy Pierce in 1959 pitched 16 innings against the Orioles in Baltimore in a game that ended in a 1-1 tie because of a local curfew after 18 innings. I listened to that whole game on my transistor radio under my pillow. Still looking for the pitch count.

          Juan Marichal in May 1963 threw an 16 inning 1-0 shutout against Warren Spahn who also pitched into the 16th, some consider that game the greatest pitched game in history.
          Last edited by LITTLE NELL; 04-24-2022, 04:06 PM.
          Now coming up to bat for the White Sox is the Mighty Mite, Nelson Fox.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Dumpjerry View Post



            Oh, this game was a week after he one-hit us in Arlington on a Ron Kittle bloop single that "had eyes" for a complete game effort.
            I remember watching this game, I got home from work, wolfed down a quick dinner and went and retired to my upstairs man cave to watch the great Ryan’s Express face the surprising and upstart White Sox. I thought to myself I should pop a tape in and record a Nolan Ryan game for posterity. For whatever reason, (couldn’t find a blank tape, or decide which one to tape over, I can’t remember). I decided to NOTtape the game, and then Nolan Ryan proceeded to put on one of the all time greatest pitching clinics I ever saw.

            I’ve regretted not taping that game ever since. And if I remember correctly it was a WGN broadcast and not a Sportschannel game, so there was no chance to grab the encore presentation like they offered on Sportschannel.

            PS: Lip if you happen to have that game maybe we can work out a trade. 😀

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            • #7
              PS. A few months later in August Nolan darn near did it again, and he put on an equally impressive clinic on the mound. That game featured a bench clearing brawl instigated by Ryan for hitting Grebeck and Hibbard retaliated hitting Buechele.
              Last edited by Wsoxmike59; 05-21-2022, 10:23 PM.

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              • #8
                I was at the game Dick Allen broke up Ryan's no-hitter on an infield single in the ninth and the Sox came back to win. One of the great days at the old yard.

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                • #9
                  I anticipate this doc will make This Old Cub seem like a hard-hitting expose in comparison.

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                  • #10
                    Well it appears Christmas came early for Wsoxmike59, look at what I found on YouTube!
                     

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                    • #11
                      Jeff Torborg was interviewed extensively for this doc at a baseball field near his home. Really well done production (I've seen some trailers for it)

                      Regarding the "bad blood" between the White Sox and Rangers, it was real. This from my interview with Jeff:

                      ML: That season was the start of a real dislike between the White Sox and the Texas Rangers that culminated in 1993 when Robin Ventura charged the mound at Nolan Ryan. There was something going on between the two organizations and there were a lot of strange things that contributed to the bad blood. It started when the two players you’d least expect to homer off Ryan did, Craig Grebeck and Ozzie Guillen back to back, then you had an eight hour ‘rain delay’ on a Sunday, resulting in a game having to be played in Texas at twilight, there was a bad brawl on the field during that game and then Carlton Fisk hit his record setting home run in the nightcap. Whew!

                      JT: “I remember when Craig and Ozzie hit homers off Nolan and his teammates were giving it to him from the dugout when it happened. (Author’s Note: It happened in the 2nd inning of the second game of a double header on August 10, 1990. The Sox won the game 5-1 after taking the opener 5-2.) I knew Nolan well of course, since I caught him with the Angels and I knew the type of competitor he was.”

                      “Then that Sunday it started to rain before the game was supposed to start, it wasn’t a downpour but a steady rain. It was the last time Texas was coming into Chicago and we asked them if we postponed it, would they fly back in on an off day to play. They said no, so we said we’ll wait as long as we have to because if we can’t get the game in we’re going to have to make it up next week when we went to Texas and I knew, just knew, that if we did, we were going to face Ryan in twilight and I wanted to avoid that. The umpires were furious with us.” (Author’s Note: The Sox set what is believed to be the longest wait in baseball history before calling a game because of rain. The game was schedule to start at 1PM Central time. Persistent rains caused a delay before the first pitch was even thrown. The wait lasted seven hours and 23 minutes, before the game was “officially” called off on August 12, 1990.)

                      “The next week then in Texas, sure enough, we get Ryan in the makeup game in twilight. It’s hard enough to see him during the day but under those conditions…and he was still mad from what happened the week before. He threw at Craig Grebeck during the game and I yelled out of the dugout at him. I said, “throwing at Grebeck doesn’t show me anything…” I told Greg Hibbard, “look if we get in a situation where there are two out and nobody on base, the next guy goes down.” Remember it was a one to nothing game and I couldn’t afford to do something at the wrong moment. It turned out the situation came up and it happened to one of the nicest guys around, Steve Buechele. He charged the mound and it was a really ugly fight, it wasn’t your usual baseball fight. (Author’s Note: Texas wound up winning the makeup game 1-0 in 13 innings. Ryan struck out 15, working 10 innings on August 17, 1990)

                      “Then in the night cap game after Carlton hit the home run, I wanted to win that game for him so badly because of the respect that I had for him as a player. He worked so much with our young players, our young pitchers and was such an influence on how they progressed in the big leagues.” (Author’s Note: The Sox took the night cap 4-2. Fisk broke Johnny Bench’s record for most career home runs by a catcher with a solo shot in the 2nd inning off Charlie Hough. It was home run #328 for Fisk as a catcher. That record was subsequently broken by Mike Piazza.)

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                      • #12
                        Watched this yesterday. Pretty fluffy since it was done by him and his sons, but an enjoyable watch. No better or worse than the majority of sports documentaries.

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