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    This is a fascinating story of how the St. Louis Browns were literally one day away from becoming the Los Angeles Browns. The story also looks at how if that move had happened several other franchises would have had their fortunes altered.

    Great read!

    https://www.mlb.com/news/featured/th...seball-forever

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    Fascinating. Goes to show, timing is everything sometimes. But for Pearl Harbor, it looks like it would have happened.

    The other interesting thing in the article that we take for granted today is air travel. In 1941, it was mentioned as one option for team travel as if "oh, nobody really does that." I know commercial air was very different back then, but was it mainly for military purposes (there was no shortage of planes and pilots for WWII)?

    The "what if" scenarios read like those alternative reality movies and shows.

    Oh, the Bears beat the Cardinals on 12/7? Those were the days when it was a true Halas calling the shots......(of course one year earlier on Dec. 8, 1940, the Bears won the NFL title game 73-0 over the Redskins).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dumpjerry View Post
      Fascinating. Goes to show, timing is everything sometimes. But for Pearl Harbor, it looks like it would have happened.

      The other interesting thing in the article that we take for granted today is air travel. In 1941, it was mentioned as one option for team travel as if "oh, nobody really does that." I know commercial air was very different back then, but was it mainly for military purposes (there was no shortage of planes and pilots for WWII)?

      The "what if" scenarios read like those alternative reality movies and shows.

      Oh, the Bears beat the Cardinals on 12/7? Those were the days when it was a true Halas calling the shots......(of course one year earlier on Dec. 8, 1940, the Bears won the NFL title game 73-0 over the Redskins).
      There was plenty of commercial air travel in the 30's and 40's not like today of course and because of the technical limitations flights took hours upon hours.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Dumpjerry View Post
        Fascinating. Goes to show, timing is everything sometimes. But for Pearl Harbor, it looks like it would have happened.

        The other interesting thing in the article that we take for granted today is air travel. In 1941, it was mentioned as one option for team travel as if "oh, nobody really does that." I know commercial air was very different back then, but was it mainly for military purposes (there was no shortage of planes and pilots for WWII)?

        The "what if" scenarios read like those alternative reality movies and shows.

        Oh, the Bears beat the Cardinals on 12/7? Those were the days when it was a true Halas calling the shots......(of course one year earlier on Dec. 8, 1940, the Bears won the NFL title game 73-0 over the Redskins).
        So Pearl Harbor began at 7:55 AM in Hawaii, which meant it was 11:55 AM Chicago time. I can’t find what time the game started, but I have to imagine it was midday, although since Comiskey already had lights (1939), who knows.
        Edit: there are sites saying the games had already started when Pearl Harbor was going on. What I find bizarre is how they finished the season with the Bears winning the championship and then the bears beat the “NFL all star team too” despite a war going on.
        Last edited by 34rancher; 11-17-2021, 10:43 PM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 34rancher View Post

          So Pearl Harbor began at 7:55 AM in Hawaii, which meant it was 11:55 AM Chicago time. I can’t find what time the game started, but I have to imagine it was midday, although since Comiskey already had lights (1939), who knows.
          Edit: there are sites saying the games had already started when Pearl Harbor was going on. What I find bizarre is how they finished the season with the Bears winning the championship and then the bears beat the “NFL all star team too” despite a war going on.
          https://baseballhall.org/discover/in...n-light-letter
          Nellie had more doubles than strikeouts every year from 1950 to 1963, and more triples (12) than strikeouts (11) in 1951 (682 plate appearances.)

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          • #6
            Interesting that all the fantasy stories never mentioned scenarios involving the White Sox who almost moved 3 different times.
            Now coming up to bat for the White Sox is the Mighty Mite, Nelson Fox.

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