*OFFICIAL* 9/18/22 Mammoth Drives in Motor City SOX 11 DET 5 Postgamer

[Frater Perdurabo]

Get on base + do damage with runners on base = Score lots of runs.

[LITTLE NELL]

Big blast by AV on a 1-2 count deserves some kudos. Eloy can be such a monster in the lineup if he can only stay off the IL.

[Frater Perdurabo]

Facing Detroit pitching aside, the fact that our hitters are capable of these kinds of outbursts is precisely why - despite the disappointment of this season - it makes sense to augment rather than break up the existing core of hitters.

Moncada and Eloy are finally healthy and *surprise* they are producing. TA and Robert both should be fully healthy next season, and Colas likely could provide excellent RF defense while also providing enough explosiveness to offset the growing pains at the plate.

[LITTLE NELL]

Facing Detroit pitching aside, the fact that our hitters are capable of these kinds of outbursts is precisely why - despite the disappointment of this season - it makes sense to augment rather than break up the existing core of hitters.

Moncada and Eloy are finally healthy and *surprise* they are producing. TA and Robert both should be fully healthy next season, and Colas likely could provide excellent RF defense while also providing enough explosiveness to offset the growing pains at the plate.

The only question is if they can stay healthy.

Meanwhile the Sox today finally made to even in the run differential department, 15 games left and it would be great if they add to the plus column with a bunch of big wins coming down the stretch. They are still under .500 at home at 35-37 and hard to believe but are -61 in run differential at GRF.

[BigKlu59]

The only question is if they can stay healthy.

Meanwhile the Sox today finally made to even in the run differential department, 15 games left and it would be great if they add to the plus column with a bunch of big wins coming down the stretch. They are still under .500 at home at 35-37 and hard to believe but are -61 in run differential at GRF.

Nothing says home field advantage like those impotent numbers.

[Zakath]

Going to imagine a lot of Sox fans who can will have the MLB network on tomorrow to watch Game 5 of the Twins-Guardians series. At worst, we're down 4 with 15 to play and can still take the season series from Cleveland.

[Harwar]

Needed a win and got one . Eloy's massive blast was impressive . I watch a lot of other teams and I can't recall another home run hit there . looking forward to the Cleveland series now, especially if they lose again tomorrow.

[Nellie Fox]

Going to imagine a lot of Sox fans who can will have the MLB network on tomorrow to watch Game 5 of the Twins-Guardians series. At worst, we're down 4 with 15 to play and can still take the season series from Cleveland.

Cleveland has the tie-breaker until they don't. If they win tomorrow, their magic number is 11. There will be 15 games left for each team; if they just go 8-7, the the Sox would have to go 13-2. Even if the Sox sweep Cleveland to take the tie-breaker, they'd have to go 12-3. Highly unlikely.

[Chez]

Cleveland has the tie-breaker until they don't. If they win tomorrow, their magic number is 11. There will be 15 games left for each team; if they just go 8-7, the the Sox would have to go 13-2. Even if the Sox sweep Cleveland to take the tie-breaker, they'd have to go 12-3. Highly unlikely.

How can that be? If Cleveland wins tomorrow, they go up 4 games. If the Sox then sweep Cleveland, the Sox would be one game behind with 12 to play (and would hold the tie-breaker over Cleveland)..

[Nellie Fox]

How can that be? If Cleveland wins tomorrow, they go up 4 games. If the Sox then sweep Cleveland, the Sox would be one game behind with 12 to play (and would hold the tie-breaker over Cleveland)..

Do the math, based on what I said. If Cleveland wins tomorrow and then gets swept by the Sox, yes, the Sox would then have the tie-breaker. Cleveland's magic number would be 12. If they win 8 of the remaining 12 (to go 8-7 like I stated) the Sox could only lose 3 of their remaining 12, or Cleveland reaches the magic number. 8 Cleveland wins plus 4 Sox losses would equal 12.

Yes, a sweep by the Sox makes it more difficult for Cleveland to go 8-7 over those last 15, but it doesn't change the math of what happens if they do go 8-7.

[SOX ADDICT '73]

Do the math, based on what I said. If Cleveland wins tomorrow and then gets swept by the Sox, yes, the Sox would then have the tie-breaker. Cleveland's magic number would be 12. If they win 8 of the remaining 12 (to go 8-7 like I stated) the Sox could only lose 3 of their remaining 12, or Cleveland reaches the magic number. 8 Cleveland wins plus 4 Sox losses would equal 12.

Yes, a sweep by the Sox makes it more difficult for Cleveland to go 8-7 over those last 15, but it doesn't change the math of what happens if they do go 8-7.

It's depressing to think about, but it's accurate - basically the opposite situation as last year at this time, when the pessimists among us were trying to convince ourselves the Sox still had a chance to blow their division lead.

The truth of the matter is that Sox screwed around for far too long this season, and only a couple of weeks ago started playing like the team we were promised. If that ends up being too little, too late, they've got no one to blame but themselves.

[ChiTownTrojan]

Do the math, based on what I said. If Cleveland wins tomorrow and then gets swept by the Sox, yes, the Sox would then have the tie-breaker. Cleveland's magic number would be 12. If they win 8 of the remaining 12 (to go 8-7 like I stated) the Sox could only lose 3 of their remaining 12, or Cleveland reaches the magic number. 8 Cleveland wins plus 4 Sox losses would equal 12.

Yes, a sweep by the Sox makes it more difficult for Cleveland to go 8-7 over those last 15, but it doesn't change the math of what happens if they do go 8-7.

The math checks out but it's misleading.

How about this: if Cleveland wins today and then the Sox sweep, the Sox will be one game out with the tie-breaker in hand. So from that point forward, the Sox would just need one more win than Cleveland.

[Nellie Fox]

The math checks out but it's misleading.

It's not misleading at all. The point is that the Sox have a very steep hill to climb if Cleveland just plays average ball, and the fact that they need to sweep Cleveland to even get a foothold on that hill supports that point.

[berwyn]

Sweep? SWEEP? The last time there was so much undeserved confidence around here was about the Bulls getting Zion Williamson.

[ChiTownTrojan]

It's not misleading at all. The point is that the Sox have a very steep hill to climb if Cleveland just plays average ball, and the fact that they need to sweep Cleveland to even get a foothold on that hill supports that point.

It's misleading because you talk about a Sox sweep, but then say that Cleveland would be going 8-7, ignoring the fact that (outside the sweep) they would be going 8-4.

So yes, if the Guardians go 8-4 after your hypothetical scenario, the Sox would have to be one game better (9-3). But if the Guardians go 6-6, the Sox would just have to go 7-5. Or maybe the Guardians go cold and only go 4-8, and then the Sox only need 5 wins. Lots of "what ifs", but it all starts with the Sox having to take care of business this week, and hope for a little help.