*OFFICIAL* 6/2/22 Dome Doldrums JAYS 8 SOX 3 Postmortem

[Frater Perdurabo]

There really isn’t much to say about the ongoing repeated failures.

[Harwar]

I find it all extremely depressing . I've been through bad teams and bad seasons before, but this year was supposed to be the promised land . This season is a train wreck . Welcome to 3rd place.

[WSox597]

Hard to believe this team beat the Yankees in a DH a couple of weeks ago. Seems much longer than that.

You have to be disappointed, since this was supposed to be much better.

[LITTLE NELL]

I find it all extremely depressing . I've been through bad teams and bad seasons before, but this year was supposed to be the promised land . This season is a train wreck . Welcome to 3rd place.

Maybe worse.

[BigKlu59]

I find it all extremely depressing . I've been through bad teams and bad seasons before, but this year was supposed to be the promised land . This season is a train wreck . Welcome to 3rd place.

Yup, sure make us feel like we’ve been had by a barker on the midway, promisingly a wonders of the world show, only to shuffle us past worthless figures of paper mache.

BK59

[Domeshot17]

Gavin Sheets needs to be sent down. He’s been so bad, and if he isn’t going to hit then why is he in the OF? Also - why is Reese DHing? The guy is terrible offensively, truly terrible. I just don’t understand LaRussa. No urgency, no attempt to put an actual lineup out there to win. Just bad.

[longtimefan]

My summer has been ruined. I thought this might be the year but I had a sinking feeling starting last Fall. We all knew the issues but nothing seemed to happen to make major fixes. Now reality hits and we are far from a serious challenger for any championship. I wouldn't even know how to fix this mess.

[WSox597]

Yup, sure make us feel like we’ve been had by a barker on the midway, promisingly a wonders of the world show, only to shuffle us past worthless figures of paper mache.

BK59

Yeah no kidding, it's "Come see the alligator human!!" and when you get there it's an action figure of the silly lizard from the insurance company.

[voodoochile]

Moncada had a hit and Robert was 2/4 with a 2B. Need those guys to start producing if we want the offense to wake up.

[Frater Perdurabo]

Gavin Sheets needs to be sent down. He’s been so bad, and if he isn’t going to hit then why is he in the OF? Also - why is Reese DHing? The guy is terrible offensively, truly terrible. I just don’t understand LaRussa. No urgency, no attempt to put an actual lineup out there to win. Just bad.

Alek Manoah has some extreme splits.

RH hitters have a .365 OPS against him this year.

LH hitters have a .768 OPS against him.

I get the logic of putting as many LH hitters as possible into the lineup.

The problem is that all of the Sox LH hitters are struggling badly.

[ChiTownTrojan]

Alek Manoah has some extreme splits.

RH hitters have a .365 OPS against him this year.

LH hitters have a .768 OPS against him.

I get the logic of putting as many LH hitters as possible into the lineup.

The problem is that all of the Sox LH hitters are struggling badly.

Exactly. The logic makes sense in a vacuum. But it doesn't really make sense with the left-handed hitters on this team. Does anyone really think that McGuire, or Sheets, or Grandal or Moncada for that matter is more likely to get a hit off Manoah than Pollock or Burger? (Yes I realize the Sox need one of McGuire/Grandal to catch. He doesn't need both in the lineup though).

La Russa seems to be managing the team he wants to have, rather than the team he actually has. I get that it's a long season, but there is no sense of urgency and no deviation from the plan that was set out in Spring Training. At some point it would be nice for these guys to actually earn their spots in the lineup/batting order.

[Domeshot17]

My problem is the accountability. Its just a cycle of excuses: The Sox have hitters way underperforming.... Can't blame the manager.... Can't blame the hitting coach.. Can't blame the GM.... There has to be answers. Why are the high profile expensive players struggling this bad? Why is everyone underperforming with the bat? Why can't players stay healthy? Why is the lineup not put out to win every day? Why is their a severe lack of organizational depth due to player development? These questions need answers.

[voodoochile]

My problem is the accountability. Its just a cycle of excuses: The Sox have hitters way underperforming.... Can't blame the manager.... Can't blame the hitting coach.. Can't blame the GM.... There has to be answers. Why are the high profile expensive players struggling this bad? Why is everyone underperforming with the bat? Why can't players stay healthy? Why is the lineup not put out to win every day? Why is their a severe lack of organizational depth due to player development? These questions need answers.

Some of it has been the niggling injuries breaking up their rhythm. This can be especially tough on younger players. It's not the only reason.

Oh and I completely disagree with you organizational depth comment. You know the reason there aren't a bunch of AS caliber players ready to go in the minors and there has been a bunch of success from high level minor league players coming up to fill gaps. Mendick, Sheets, Burger, Lambert, Martin, etc. have all come up and been productive on some level when called on to fill in. Are they as good as the players they are subbing for? No, but how many teams have that kind of depth? There are also guys like Romy, Yolbert and Perez who are pushing to join the big league team and players like Sosa, Rodriguez and Cespedes at AA. I can go back deeper to A+ and point out Ramos, Mieses and of course Colas who are all off to solid starts at that level.

I don't know what you are looking for or expecting, but the minors actually ARE producing consistently.

[ChiTownTrojan]

Some of it has been the niggling injuries breaking up their rhythm. This can be especially tough on younger players. It's not the only reason.

Oh and I completely disagree with you organizational depth comment. You know the reason there aren't a bunch of AS caliber players ready to go in the minors and there has been a bunch of success from high level minor league players coming up to fill gaps. Mendick, Sheets, Burger, Lambert, Martin, etc. have all come up and been productive on some level when called on to fill in. Are they as good as the players they are subbing for? No, but how many teams have that kind of depth? There are also guys like Romy, Yolbert and Perez who are pushing to join the big league team and players like Sosa, Rodriguez and Cespedes at AA. I can go back deeper to A+ and point out Ramos, Mieses and of course Colas who are all off to solid starts at that level.

I don't know what you are looking for or expecting, but the minors actually ARE producing consistently.

Just about every team is dealing with injuries. It's not an excuse. The problem is the players who are on the field, and are supposed to be part of the core, are playing poorly (not hitting).

I agree there is minor league depth. The team has been very reluctant to use it this year though. I'd like to see Yolbert and/or Perez up sooner than later (Romy has been struggling, he's played himself out of consideration for the time being).

[longtimefan]

My problem is the accountability. Its just a cycle of excuses: The Sox have hitters way underperforming.... Can't blame the manager.... Can't blame the hitting coach.. Can't blame the GM.... There has to be answers. Why are the high profile expensive players struggling this bad? Why is everyone underperforming with the bat? Why can't players stay healthy? Why is the lineup not put out to win every day? Why is their a severe lack of organizational depth due to player development? These questions need answers.

I'll agree with lack of accountability but when has accountability been routinely enforced in a Reinsdorf team? It happens but not as often as it should. Also, I questioned the team's leadership which ties into accountability. I don't know for sure but I suspect TLR is not the most dynamic leader at this point. That is, he doesn't get players to play at or excel above their potential. The hitting issues are obvious but this season and last, I have seen repeated mental errors. Is some player and/or coach making it clear that sloppy play isn't acceptable?