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    Tommy Davis R.I.P.

    Former White Sox outfielder Tommy Davis died Sunday night at the age of 83 in Phoenix, Arizona. The cause of his death wasn’t given.

    Davis was a former two-time National League batting champion and a member of three World Series clubs with the Dodgers.

    He was acquired by the White Sox from the Mets on December 15, 1967 by then G.M. Ed Short.

    It was one of the worst trades he ever made and eventually, along with other bad deals, led to his firing in September 1970.

    The Sox sent former Rookie of the Year, outfielder Tommie Agee and infielder Al Weis to New York for Davis, pitcher Jack Fisher and catcher “Buddy” Booker.

    The move was made to try to help the Sox stagnant offense but dealing Agee, the first player to hit 20 home runs and steal 20 bases in a season for the Sox made little sense.

    Both men would go on to help the Mets win the 1969 World Series.

    Davis meanwhile only played for the Sox in 1968 appearing in 132 games with eight home runs, 50 RBI’s and a .268 batting average. Twice that year he had games with four RBI’s, both times coming against the Senators. The Sox didn’t protect him and he was taken in the expansion draft by the Seattle Pilots.

    While with the Sox Davis was indirectly involved in an unfortunate incident at Comiskey Park during the Democratic National Convention in August 1968.

    On August 25 playing against the Twins, while he was in left field, he was the victim of racial comments from some supporters of Alabama Governor George Wallace. That upset supporters of Senator Eugene McCarthy who were in the same area of the left field stands and the situation began to get heated. Security quickly stepped in and averted what could have been an uglier situation.




  • #2
    Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post
    He was acquired by the White Sox from the Mets on December 15, 1967 by then G.M. Ed Short.

    It was one of the worst trades he ever made and eventually, along with other bad deals, led to his firing in September 1970.

    The Sox sent former Rookie of the Year, outfielder Tommie Agee and infielder Al Weis to New York for Davis, pitcher Jack Fisher and catcher “Buddy” Booker.

    Both men would go on to help the Mets win the 1969 World Series.
    Sounds like a great trade, actually.

    R.I.P., he was slightly before my time.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Dumpjerry View Post
      Sounds like a great trade, actually.

      R.I.P., he was slightly before my time.
      At the time I thought it was a good trade, Agee was coming off a lousy 1967 season, he only hit .234 with 14 homers and 52 RBI. Davis was a bust with the Sox in 68 and so was Agee with the Mets. It was in 69 and 70 that Agee had some very good seasons with the Mets helping them win the 69 WS while playing a great centerfield, after the 70 season his career took a nosedive.
      I met Al Weis about 15 years ago while in the Golf business and we talked about the Sox for about 20 minutes and he gave me a signed baseball card of his.
      Last edited by LITTLE NELL; 04-04-2022, 04:52 PM.
      Now coming up to bat for the White Sox is the Mighty Mite, Nelson Fox.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post

        It was one of the worst trades he ever made and eventually, along with other bad deals, led to his firing in September 1970.
        The first trade I was aware of as a kid and it made me sad when it happened. And so began my enduring love of White Sox trades of young players.
        May he RIP.

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        • #5
          RIP Tommy Davis. I always liked this guy and thought he was a solid Major Leaguer. I remember when the DH rule came about in 1973 I did not like it. And I can remember when I FINALLY came around to accepting it and even liking it was in 1976 while attending a Sox game and the DH that night for the opposing team was Tommy Davis. I told my cousin John who I was attending the game with, how cool is it that some old fan favorites can play awhile longer because of the DH rule.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wsoxmike59 View Post
            RIP Tommy Davis. I always liked this guy and thought he was a solid Major Leaguer. I remember when the DH rule came about in 1973 I did not like it. And I can remember when I FINALLY came around to accepting it and even liking it was in 1976 while attending a Sox game and the DH that night for the opposing team was Tommy Davis. I told my cousin John who I was attending the game with, how cool is it that some old fan favorites can play awhile longer because of the DH rule.
            He was the A.L. DH of the year in 1974 with the Orioles.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by LITTLE NELL View Post

              At the time I thought it was a good trade, Agee was coming off a lousy 1967 season, he only hit .234 with 14 homers and 52 RBI. Davis was a bust with the Sox in 68 and so was Agee with the Mets. It was in 69 and 70 that Agee had some very good seasons with the Mets helping them win the 69 WS while playing a great centerfield, after the 70 season his career took a nosedive.
              I met Al Weis about 15 years ago while in the Golf business and we talked about the Sox for about 20 minutes and he gave me a signed baseball card of his.
              The White Sox team batting average in 1967 was only .225, considering Agee hit .234 with 26 doubles, 2 triples, 14 home runs, 52 RBI's and 28 stolen bases...to me that's not bad compared to his teammates. he should never have been traded.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post

                The White Sox team batting average in 1967 was only .225, considering Agee hit .234 with 26 doubles, 2 triples, 14 home runs, 52 RBI's and 28 stolen bases...to me that's not bad compared to his teammates. he should never have been traded.
                Maybe if Agee hadn't regressed from his 1966 ROY season the Sox might have had just enough to win the 67 Pennant.
                Now coming up to bat for the White Sox is the Mighty Mite, Nelson Fox.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LITTLE NELL View Post

                  At the time I thought it was a good trade, Agee was coming off a lousy 1967 season, he only hit .234 with 14 homers and 52 RBI. Davis was a bust with the Sox in 68 and so was Agee with the Mets. It was in 69 and 70 that Agee had some very good seasons with the Mets helping them win the 69 WS while playing a great centerfield, after the 70 season his career took a nosedive.
                  I met Al Weis about 15 years ago while in the Golf business and we talked about the Sox for about 20 minutes and he gave me a signed baseball card of his.
                  Agree with your trade assessment. It only makes little sense in hindsight.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LITTLE NELL View Post

                    Maybe if Agee hadn't regressed from his 1966 ROY season the Sox might have had just enough to win the 67 Pennant.
                    Well stated Sir. God knows a few placed hits here or there, or a long ball or 4 might have made a big difference. Especially against those damn A’s and Senators.

                    BK59

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BigKlu59 View Post

                      Well stated Sir. God knows a few placed hits here or there, or a long ball or 4 might have made a big difference. Especially against those damn A’s and Senators.

                      BK59
                      Exactly what we needed in a season with a lot of close ballgames, what a shame the Sox couldn't hit just a bit more with that great pitching we had that year.
                      Last edited by LITTLE NELL; 04-04-2022, 07:23 PM.
                      Now coming up to bat for the White Sox is the Mighty Mite, Nelson Fox.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LITTLE NELL View Post

                        Maybe if Agee hadn't regressed from his 1966 ROY season the Sox might have had just enough to win the 67 Pennant.
                        This is one of the things that makes the 1967 season such a painful what if. Ron Hansen and Pete Ward were also coming off injury-shortened seasons in 1966-Hansen herniated a disc and was struggling, Ward not only was out for an extended period in 1966 but continued to have his own back issues. Not to mention Tommy John going down for a month with a virus and not being the same when he came back. 1966 Tommie Agee plus pre-1966 Ward and Hansen plus John not going down for a month might have put them over the top.

                        Getting back to Tommie Davis, he hit .302 in 1967, 68 points higher than Agee. Ed Short may have some botched trades on his resume, but he could not possibly foresee that Davis would be at .194 at the All-Star break.

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                        • #13
                          And let's not forget the Sox thought so little of him they didn't protect him and lost him to the Pilots, so basically they gave away Agee and Weis.

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