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  • RIP Lamarr Hoyt

    https://twitter.com/DanEvans108/stat...P90itWSEw&s=19
    RIP to the best pitcher on one of the best Sox teams.
    Starts
    11-30-2021
    Ends
    11-30-2021
    Last edited by thomas35forever; 12-01-2021, 08:12 PM.

  • #2
    RIP, he was a horse, Lance Lynn reminds me of him.

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    • #3
      Have put together a detailed OBIT on his career. Will try to post it later on today.

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      • #4
        He had an incredible, brief run of success here between 1982 and his Cy Young 1983 season. Looking at Baseball Reference, I didn't remember that he had an all-star season with San Diego in '86.

        One bit of trivia about Hoyt is that he was a link between two fan-favorite shortstops on the South Side. He came over from the Yankees when the Sox traded Bucky Dent for Oscar Gamble. Later, he was shipped off to San Diego after the '84 season for 4 players including some minor league SS prospect of theirs. Some guy named Ozzie Guillen.
        White Sox Division Titles: 1983, 1993, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2021

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        • #5
          Have now posted my story on LaMarr on the home page of the web site:

          https://www.wsiforumstoo.com/53222-lamarr-hoyt-r-i-p

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post
            Have now posted my story on LaMarr on the home page of the web site:

            https://www.wsiforumstoo.com/53222-lamarr-hoyt-r-i-p
            Nice piece, Lip.

            Man, LaMarr was 15-2 after the All-Star Break, and make it 16-2 if you count the ALCS win. Remarkable.

            Learned a couple of things from Lip's piece. I had never heard that Winkles was brought it by Jerry and Eddie to evaluate the situation in '83. Also did not know the Sox re-signed Hoyt after the Padres run to give him another shot.

            RIP

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Brian26 View Post

              Nice piece, Lip.

              Man, LaMarr was 15-2 after the All-Star Break, and make it 16-2 if you count the ALCS win. Remarkable.

              Learned a couple of things from Lip's piece. I had never heard that Winkles was brought it by Jerry and Eddie to evaluate the situation in '83. Also did not know the Sox re-signed Hoyt after the Padres run to give him another shot.

              RIP
              Brian:

              Thank you, glad you enjoyed the story, its too bad it had to be printed though.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post
                Have now posted my story on LaMarr on the home page of the web site:

                https://www.wsiforumstoo.com/53222-lamarr-hoyt-r-i-p
                Not sure if you'd consider Hoyt to be a throw-in to the Bucky Dent trade, but in the original version of the deal, Veeck just basically sold Dent to the Yankees for $400,000. The only other player in the original deal was Oscar Gamble, who came to the Sox after a down year with the Yankees. The Yankees considered Gamble expendable, and he was included in the deal as little more than a token to help Veeck save face with fans.

                Only after Commissioner Bowie Kuhn vetoed the $400,000 payment, the teams were forced to renegotiate. The Yankees lowered the cash to $275,000 and added two minor league pitchers, Bob Polinksy and LaMarr Hoyt:

                https://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/19/s...9anderson.html

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post
                  Have now posted my story on LaMarr on the home page of the web site:

                  https://www.wsiforumstoo.com/53222-lamarr-hoyt-r-i-p
                  Nice article Lip. I too didn't remember the Sox giving Hoyt another chance in '87. It's a shame his demons got the better of him and likely shortened his career. The Sun Times also did an obit on Hoyt. Some nice quotes from LaRussa, Dotson, and Hoyt's son: https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-s...uary-white-sox

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post

                    Brian:

                    Thank you, glad you enjoyed the story, its too bad it had to be printed though.
                    Do you have the '81 game in your library where he came in from the bullpen and threw the CG?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Brian26 View Post

                      Do you have the '81 game in your library where he came in from the bullpen and threw the CG?
                      Brian:

                      I don't have that game, the ones I have where he pitched are the following:

                      4/10/81 at Boston
                      6/11/81 vs. Yankees
                      10/3/81 vs. Minnesota
                      5/27/83 vs. Texas
                      10/5/83 at Baltimore

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                      • #12
                        RIP LaMarr. One of my all time favorite Sox Pitchers/Players. I still wish the 1983 ALCS had gone the full 5 games. I liked the Sox chances with LaMarr Hoyt on the mound for the 5th and deciding game. I was lucky enough to meet him at one of the Soxfests in the early 2000’s and he signed a ball and the VHS copy of the documentary Winning Ugly 20 Years Later, the fine film done by Jeff Einhorn.

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                        • #13
                          RIP Lamar. As many on here was blown away by his performance in 83 on the bump along with Dotson and Bannister. That was the greatest set of pitchers I’d seen since Peters, Horlen and John, or Juan Pizzaro’s 19-9 season. If they’d a pulled out game 4 the Sox were going to the series with Lamar going in game 5. Shame he never got the chance.

                          BK59

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                          • #14
                            I was in the Sox locker room after they lost that Game 4. Hoyt was sitting in a media-restricted area with a thousand-mile stare. I have no doubt he would have won Game 5.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post
                              Have now posted my story on LaMarr on the home page of the web site:

                              https://www.wsiforumstoo.com/53222-lamarr-hoyt-r-i-p
                              Awesome tribute Mark. You’re a great writer and have such a wonderful memory of Sox players past and present. I really enjoy reading your posts, telling some behind the scenes and backstory of what was going down at the time these guys were playing.

                              RIP LaMarr.

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