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  • If the season is cancelled...

    The news that the Marlins have 14 covid cases, and have cancelled tonight’s home opener, makes me think the season will be cancelled sooner rather than later.

    If that happened today, what could we say we have already learned about the Sox?

    - They’re better than the Cubs but not as good as Minny.
    - They are willing (in some cases - thinking of Fulmer) to admit failure and move on.
    - The problems with Renteria, with Abreu as a middle-of-the-order hitter, with their defense, and with Lopez as a starter are all real.
    - Moncada, Jimenez and Robert are three studs, even though Jimenez can’t remain in the outfield.
    - McCann is worth hanging on to.
    - They have some good arms coming up.

  • #2
    Better than the Cubs based on what? Two exhibition games where "real" lineups are not used and other non-typical moves are made? Preseason games =/= regular season performance.

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    • #3
      I don't think we've learned much from one series at all. 3 games is not any kind of valid sample size, more so when Lopez left the game with an injury and players are still getting back to form.
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      • #4
        I think we’ve learned that Robert is an exciting addition to the core, the offensive core should continue to grow and become more dangerous, Keuchel is probably a useful addition to the staff, and many of the same old lineup problems still exist the moment depth is tested and decisions are important.

        Can’t read too much more into 3 weird games.

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        • #5
          As much as I love watching our Sox playing, it's time to cancel the season. There is no reason to risk a player, coach, front office employee, or any of their family members. Perhaps a bubble was they way to go but who knows.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Rocky View Post
            As much as I love watching our Sox playing, it's time to cancel the season. There is no reason to risk a player, coach, front office employee, or any of their family members. Perhaps a bubble was they way to go but who knows.
            Agree plus I didn't see a lot of social distancing going on in Rays-Jays series. One of the Ray's was wearing a mask but didn't have it over his nose.
            I can't see anyway that the NHL, NFL and NBA can start their seasons what with all the close contact.
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            • #7
              I think we’ve learned that the Sox are better than the Cubs but not as good as COVID-19.

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              • #8
                Hard to come to any real conclusions after just 3 games. However ... yes we need his bat in the lineup and he has a bright future - as a DH. But Eloy Jimenez seems to have no feel whatsoever for playing defense. I thought the Sox were going to work with him during the off-season. To be perfectly honest, he is terrible and I'm afraid he's going to get seriously hurt one of these days.

                Better than the Cubs? Based on what, 3 games? Let's see how this plays out, if in fact we are going to be able to finish a full 60-game slate. Not sure that is realistic based on what happened today with the Marlins.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fungo bat View Post
                  Hard to come to any real conclusions after just 3 games. However ... yes we need his bat in the lineup and he has a bright future - as a DH. But Eloy Jimenez seems to have no feel whatsoever for playing defense. I thought the Sox were going to work with him during the off-season. To be perfectly honest, he is terrible and I'm afraid he's going to get seriously hurt one of these days.

                  Better than the Cubs? Based on what, 3 games? Let's see how this plays out, if in fact we are going to be able to finish a full 60-game slate. Not sure that is realistic based on what happened today with the Marlins.
                  I think we’re better than the Cubs because we have more knowledgeable fans, we play in a better park, we don’t fly silly flags and we don’t throw home run balls back on the field. And because we’re going to win a title before the Cubs do.

                  Shame on you who feel differently.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fungo bat View Post
                    Hard to come to any real conclusions after just 3 games. However ... yes we need his bat in the lineup and he has a bright future - as a DH. But Eloy Jimenez seems to have no feel whatsoever for playing defense. I thought the Sox were going to work with him during the off-season. To be perfectly honest, he is terrible and I'm afraid he's going to get seriously hurt one of these days.

                    Better than the Cubs? Based on what, 3 games? Let's see how this plays out, if in fact we are going to be able to finish a full 60-game slate. Not sure that is realistic based on what happened today with the Marlins.
                    On Eloy, time to work with him at first base and slot in Abreu at DH. Hate to put a guy so young at DH but it is what it is, he's terrible in the OF, maybe DH is his position if he can't hack it at 1B.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LITTLE NELL View Post

                      On Eloy, time to work with him at first base and slot in Abreu at DH. Hate to put a guy so young at DH but it is what it is, he's terrible in the OF, maybe DH is his position if he can't hack it at 1B.
                      It’s only 3 games, but Abreu has looked much better at 1B, echoing reports from camp that said the same thing.

                      How long that lasts is anyone’s guess.

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                      • #12
                        Other than running into the wall on Sunday, what else has Eloy done in LF that has got people so worked up? If anything, I think he looks much better out there than last season (could be wishful thinking on my part).

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Chez View Post
                          Other than running into the wall on Sunday, what else has Eloy done in LF that has got people so worked up? If anything, I think he looks much better out there than last season (could be wishful thinking on my part).
                          Don't you get it? He ran into the wall. That has never happened before in the history of Major League Baseball. At least among elite outfielders. Heck, the wall used to run away from Willie Mays, he was that good.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Chez View Post
                            Other than running into the wall on Sunday, what else has Eloy done in LF that has got people so worked up? If anything, I think he looks much better out there than last season (could be wishful thinking on my part).
                            I agree he has looked fine in LF in the small sample size that I've watched. However the fact that he's hurt himself twice in barely over a season by running into the wall makes me worried that this is going to be a pattern.

                            For those who want to move Eloy to 1B or DH, the team currently has Abreu, Encarnacion, Vaughn, and potentially Collins/Grandal/Sheets to divvy up playing time in those two positions over the next few years. Eloy moving to 1B would likely necessitate trading Vaughn while simultaneously opening up a hole in the outfield, and I'd rather that didn't happen. For better or worse we are going to be watching Eloy in LF for the foreseeable future.

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                            • #15
                              I don’t disagree that he’ll be staying in LF, but it was a mistake to design the team around him staying in LF. It’s not just the spectacular misplays; he doesn’t cover a lot of ground and I think his arm is way worse than advertised.

                              If anyone wants to trade a nice package for Eloy, Rick should listen.

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