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Originally posted by Boondock Saint View Post
Am I reading things wrong here, because what I'm reading is that the proposal was voted down by the players.
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Originally posted by Boondock Saint View Post
Am I reading things wrong here, because what I'm reading is that the proposal was voted down by the players.
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With every other sport already live or well underway to going live, it should be obvious to everyone (even the idiot sports media) that MLB is in a unique situation different from the others. I would like to think they're just tough or principled sides in this fight but given baseball's history I suspect the real issue is the CBA negotiation for 2022 which haven't even begun yet.
Is this just a proxy war for the owners & players over anything besides the pandemic's delays? It sure looks like it. Sad for this sport.
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Originally posted by PaleHoseGeorge View PostWith every other sport already live or well underway to going live, it should be obvious to everyone (even the idiot sports media) that MLB is in a unique situation different from the others. I would like to think they're just tough or principled sides in this fight but given baseball's history I suspect the real issue is the CBA negotiation for 2022 which haven't even begun yet.
Is this just a proxy war for the owners & players over anything besides the pandemic's delays? It sure looks like it. Sad for this sport.
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There probably shouldn't be a season in 2020 because of the pandemic with looming labor issues. MLB and the union should be using this time, not to complicate the upcoming labor contract with the short-term need for a shadow of a season, but to work out the next deal for a time when there isn't a health crisis that threatens fans attending games as well as players participating. Baseball without fans isn't going to help the sport. Increasing divisions with labor over a temporary health crisis will hurt the game in years to come.
I don't have any problem with the players' position against the management proposals and don't see it as greed. Players weren't organized, for that matter American labor wasn't sufficiently organized to strike in 1919 after baseball imposed its authority over the shortened 1918 season. It wasn't a question over the nature of the shortened season. That had more to do with Woodrow Wilson than the pre-commisioner league presidents. It had to do with how the players were treated as employees. There was no strike, but it led directly to the Black Sox scandal. Sadly, the White Sox window for greatness would have been in the early 1920s.
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