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  • Should the White Sox move on from LaRussa?

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  • #2
    Nobody is perfect and if somebody can light a fire under the organization to take this and somehow try to use it as a positive (awareness campaign against drunk driving, get him substance help, anything) going forward then I'm willing to have him impart his baseball knowledge to our young team and coaches. I believe in forgiveness and that people's worst moments shouldn't define them. But he does have to take responsibility as the first tiny step.

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    • #3
      It’s too late. The damage was already done the minute it was revealed that the team knew about the DUI and hired him anyway. Firing him now will only get the team labeled as knee-jerk reactionaries.

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      • #4
        Should they? Yes. Will they? No.
        Originally posted by Mohoney View Post
        It’s too late. The damage was already done the minute it was revealed that the team knew about the DUI and hired him anyway. Firing him now will only get the team labeled as knee-jerk reactionaries.
        Funny. I don't recall the Mets being labeled that when they dumped Beltran.

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        • #5
          Stroman blasting us hurts, but at this point you have to roll with him and hope Anderson embraces him and they win, winning cures all in sports. If they dump him, we look like even more of a clown show and who is out their to hire?

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          • #6
            Originally posted by thomas35forever View Post
            Should they? Yes. Will they? No.

            Funny. I don't recall the Mets being labeled that when they dumped Beltran.
            The Astros’ schemes directly victimized other teams on the field of play, with the AL Pennant and World Series on the line. Beltran needed to go for that reason alone.

            This scandal is our own mess, and nobody is going to sympathize with anything that happens from here on out. At least the Mets had plausible deniability about the extent of Beltran’s role in the scandal when they hired him.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Domeshot17 View Post
              Stroman blasting us hurts, but at this point you have to roll with him and hope Anderson embraces him and they win, winning cures all in sports. If they dump him, we look like even more of a clown show and who is out their to hire?
              Bochy said he was interested in the job, for one. Maybe Alomar if Francona is healthy enough to return. Sam Fuld, Joe Espada, the guy whose name begins with Q (Quarataro?) among well-regarded coaches.

              However, you have to wonder if the LaRussa hiring was so dumb that it’s made the Sox a poisonous destination for anyone else.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by A. Cavatica View Post

                However, you have to wonder if the LaRussa hiring was so dumb that it’s made the Sox a poisonous destination for anyone else.
                That's a legitimate fear, too, with his previously stated beliefs really far away from those of most of today's players. All we can do about that is pray.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by thomas35forever View Post
                  Should they? Yes. Will they? No.
                  ^This.

                  I voted "yes", but there is no way in hell JR is going to back down from hiring his pal LaRussa. If anyone thinks Sox ownership cares about bad PR, I'd have to wonder where they've been the last 39 years. Perhaps living on Mars. JR still thinks they were right about SportsVision and the White Flag Trade. I doubt they are having 2nd thoughts about TLR at all.

                  I don't think JR is losing much sleep about what Marcus Stroman said since they're more likely targeting someone like Odorizzi as their big FA "prize" this winter anyway. Merkin hinted as much in a "mail bag" article a few weeks ago.

                  I was optimistic about this team being serious this offseason after Hahn's press conference announcing they were letting Ricky go. But that evaporated when they went out and hired TLR. That was a big sign to me that this team really isn't all that serious about going for it this winter after all.
                  White Sox Division Titles: 1983, 1993, 2000, 2005, 2008, 2021

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by thomas35forever View Post
                    That's a legitimate fear, too, with his previously stated beliefs really far away from those of most of today's players. All we can do about that is pray.
                    I’m not talking about LaRussa’s beliefs, as antiquated as they are. I’m talking about the team’s incredible stupidity and insensitivity about hiring him a day after he was charged with his second DUI. Williams and Hahn reportedly hate the hire, the players reportedly hate the hire, and 90% of the fans definitely hate the hire.

                    This may be as dumb as Jerry taking a hard line and provoking the strike in 1994, costing the Sox a likely World Series appearance. It’s doing damage that will take years to undo.

                    Who in his right mind would choose to come into this environment?

                    (Oh, yeah, Ozzie. The one guy who would be worse than TLR.)

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                    • #11
                      I don’t post on other fan sites, and this link is not intended as an endorsement, but a poster elsewhere has done an excellent job listing the Sox advertisers and telling you how to write them about LaRussa. Tip of the cap.
                      18 hours ago, SouthWallace said: His email address is [email protected] Brooks Boyer is [email protected] Hopefully people feel free to let them know what people think.
                      Last edited by A. Cavatica; 11-10-2020, 10:39 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by A. Cavatica View Post
                        I don’t post on other fan sites, and this link is not intended as an endorsement, but a poster elsewhere has done an excellent job listing the Sox advertisers and telling you how to write them about LaRussa. Tip of the cap.
                        What about a petition on change.org?

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                        • #13
                          They should, but the same stubbornness that led JR to hire TLR in the first place will likely cause him to dig in his heels on this. The one constant with JR throughout his tenure as owner is that he is determined to win, but only on his own terms.
                          (Formerly asindc.)

                          "I have the ultimate respect for White Sox fans. They were as miserable as the Cubs and Red Sox fans ever were but always had the good decency to keep it to themselves. And when they finally won the World Series, they celebrated without annoying every other fan in the country." Jim Caple, ESPN (January 12, 2011)

                          "We have now sunk to a depth at which the restatement of the (bleeding) obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." — George Orwell

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                          • #14
                            He never should have been hired in the first place. That being said, damage control is needed and starts by firing him. 2020 was about as fun of a season as I could have imagined. This team was fun to watch day in and day out. Hopefully TLR does not suck the life out of this group. He is too old, too set in his ways, too crabby, and a crumugdgeon. He needs to go.
                            Last edited by beebee richard; 11-13-2020, 11:05 AM.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by A. Cavatica View Post

                              I’m not talking about LaRussa’s beliefs, as antiquated as they are. I’m talking about the team’s incredible stupidity and insensitivity about hiring him a day after he was charged with his second DUI. Williams and Hahn reportedly hate the hire, the players reportedly hate the hire, and 90% of the fans definitely hate the hire.

                              This may be as dumb as Jerry taking a hard line and provoking the strike in 1994, costing the Sox a likely World Series appearance. It’s doing damage that will take years to undo.

                              Who in his right mind would choose to come into this environment?

                              (Oh, yeah, Ozzie. The one guy who would be worse than TLR.)
                              Exactly. I am seeing and reading a bunch of fans defending the hire, but they also don't seem to realize the optics of this hire in the public and across the league. This hire and now this situation will cause players and coaches to not come here. Even with all the talent this team has assembled, this kind of move will alienate people from wanting to be part of this organization. This is not a situation a team in the position of the White Sox ever wants to be in. There should be nothing but positivity coming from this organization based on the season they had and the move to replace Renteria. Instead, they once again inflicted unnecessary scorn and ridicule upon themselves.

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