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  • Sox Top 2022 Prospects...

    According to CBS Sportsline:

    https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/w...chicagos-list/

  • #2
    Originally posted by Lipman 1 View Post
    Hmmmm, Kath, Montgomery and Vera ahead of Colas? I'm not on board with that.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by rdivaldi View Post

      Hmmmm, Kath, Montgomery and Vera ahead of Colas? I'm not on board with that.
      This list came out before the Colas signing was official, so he might not have been actually eligible. However, most of the writeups I've seen on Colas are that he would slot in behind Montgomery and Vera. The biggest reason is their relative youth and upside. That, and nobody really knows what to expect from Colas because nobody has really seen him play in a couple years.

      There are some really glowing reports on Vera, that he's hitting 97-100 mph with ease. A lot is still unknown with him because he hasn't pitched in the US yet, but we'll find out more this year.

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      • #4
        FanGraphs has released their ZiPS top 100 prospect rankings. These rankings are based completely on a computer projection system of a player's major league career, and there are a lot of caveats (which the author, Dan Szymborski, makes sure to note repeatedly in the intro). One of those caveats (other than that it doesn't use human scouting) is that it relies completely on data from a player's professional career, because the projection system doesn't know what to do with college/high school stats. Still, it's interesting that the Sox have two prospects on the top 100: Jose Rodriguez at 87, and Bryan Ramos all the way up at #20. Symborski even calls out that Ramos ranking:

        Then there’s Bryan Ramos. ZiPS absolutely loved Ramos’ season and thought he was even unlucky from a BABIP standpoint. A .244/.345/.415 line for a 19-year-old infielder in a full-season league is solid, and his comps are a who’s who of interesting-ish prospects who developed power, like Jose Valentin and Dan Uggla. I’m not saying that he’s a slam-dunk — ZiPS also loved Arismendy Alcántara — but don’t completely forget his name. Especially since the White Sox didn’t do so well here otherwise.
        Anyway, I thought that was interesting.

        https://blogs.fangraphs.com/zips-202...100-prospects/

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        • #5
          Colas with an easy triple to the RCF gap during minor league camp.

          https://twitter.com/SoxShowdown/stat...1G-fr81phEfC4Q

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ChiTownTrojan View Post
            Colas with an easy triple to the RCF gap during minor league camp.

            https://twitter.com/SoxShowdown/stat...1G-fr81phEfC4Q
            I know it’s spring training and facing minor league pitching, but I liked Colas’ swing and he appears faster than previous scouting reports had suggested.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by ChiTownTrojan View Post
              Colas with an easy triple to the RCF gap during minor league camp.

              https://twitter.com/SoxShowdown/stat...1G-fr81phEfC4Q
              He hit it off McClure too. That's a great sign he's taking an experienced pitcher like that into the gap so easily. Mieses was on base in front of him - he's got some promise and moved quickly to A+ last year. The other runner was Krogman who was drafted very late in 2019 but received a $190K bonus so the Sox must think he's got potential. Still very young at 21 but hasn't hit much in chances he's had in the minors.
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              • #8
                The Sox don't hype their prospects, so I'm sure there are some good prospects in the group. But it's universal #30, with a lot of squandered draft capital; and call-ups can't excuse that away. The Dodgers called up Lux and Will Smith, drafted the same year as Collins and Burdi, and they aren't #30; neither are Braves, Rays, Giants, etc., etc. Hopefully the last 2 drafts work out, but they'll have to have been really precise as they put "all their eggs" on a few players in each.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tragg View Post
                  The Sox don't hype their prospects, so I'm sure there are some good prospects in the group. But it's universal #30, with a lot of squandered draft capital; and call-ups can't excuse that away. The Dodgers called up Lux and Will Smith, drafted the same year as Collins and Burdi, and they aren't #30; neither are Braves, Rays, Giants, etc., etc. Hopefully the last 2 drafts work out, but they'll have to have been really precise as they put "all their eggs" on a few players in each.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Tragg View Post
                    The Sox don't hype their prospects, so I'm sure there are some good prospects in the group. But it's universal #30, with a lot of squandered draft capital; and call-ups can't excuse that away. The Dodgers called up Lux and Will Smith, drafted the same year as Collins and Burdi, and they aren't #30; neither are Braves, Rays, Giants, etc., etc. Hopefully the last 2 drafts work out, but they'll have to have been really precise as they put "all their eggs" on a few players in each.
                    The consensus is that the Sox farm system is ranked #30 "for the right reasons." They've graduated players from their system over the past 5 years who are high-end starters at nearly every position, save 2B and RF. Everyone is under control for the next 3 seasons, so on the position player side, what they need most are fill-ins for injuries. Hopefully they have that in the system with guys like Romy and Rodriguez, who have positional flexibility.

                    The biggest near-term problem with the system is that they don't have a lot of pitchers coming up, specifically relievers. Having a $60M bullpen is not sustainable, and the way to get out from that is to develop your own reliever like most teams do. Hopefully there are a few surprises that pop up in the next couple years, but the last crop of potential relievers (Heuer, Foster, Hamilton, Burdi, etc.) mostly flamed out or were traded.

                    Then yes, over the next few years they need to rebuild the system, as they won't be requiring any major contributors outside SP (Vera).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ChiTownTrojan View Post

                      The consensus is that the Sox farm system is ranked #30 "for the right reasons." They've graduated players from their system over the past 5 years who are high-end starters at nearly every position, save 2B and RF. Everyone is under control for the next 3 seasons, so on the position player side, what they need most are fill-ins for injuries. Hopefully they have that in the system with guys like Romy and Rodriguez, who have positional flexibility.

                      The biggest near-term problem with the system is that they don't have a lot of pitchers coming up, specifically relievers. Having a $60M bullpen is not sustainable, and the way to get out from that is to develop your own reliever like most teams do. Hopefully there are a few surprises that pop up in the next couple years, but the last crop of potential relievers (Heuer, Foster, Hamilton, Burdi, etc.) mostly flamed out or were traded.

                      Then yes, over the next few years they need to rebuild the system, as they won't be requiring any major contributors outside SP (Vera).
                      I think there's more AAA depth at reliever than you are aware of. Not sure there's a Liam Hendriks in that group, but there's a bunch of guys with live arms have shown promise at AA and even AAA over the last two years.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by voodoochile View Post

                        I think there's more AAA depth at reliever than you are aware of. Not sure there's a Liam Hendriks in that group, but there's a bunch of guys with live arms have shown promise at AA and even AAA over the last two years.
                        Which ones stick out to you? I can't think of anyone that's had any sustained success above A-ball.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ChiTownTrojan View Post

                          Which ones stick out to you? I can't think of anyone that's had any sustained success above A-ball.
                          Parke, Sousa, Vargas, Ramsey, Perez all have the chance to be contributors on the big league level. Behind them there's Dominguez and possibly Gomez.

                          And of course there's the ever developing Schryver and McClure.

                          Issue is so many of them are aging out fast due to the lost 2020 season, but several of these guys looked good last year even after being promoted. That's just at AA/AAA. There are more live arms at WS and it's WAY too soon to write off the high draft picks from a couple seasons ago. Some of them showed a lot more promise as the season progressed, but since they didn't all turn into Jack McDowell overnight people have grown frustrated with their pace. We'll know a lot more this coming season.
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                          • #14
                            I never concern myself with minor league rankings. They are highly subjective and constantly changing as prospects are traded to other teams or get called up to The Show.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Dumpjerry View Post
                              I never concern myself with minor league rankings. They are highly subjective and constantly changing as prospects are traded to other teams or get called up to The Show.
                              They are somewhat subjective and they do change rapidly, especially in today's game. But they have value and are based on statistical performance as well. The White Sox are a very weak farm system at this point in time and that's okay. They've built up the team quickly and finally have some staying power due to the age of their stalwart players. I would say that they need to focus on not getting tunnel vision in the next few drafts, I saw too many pitchers get taken leading up to a nice change of pace in 2021. You need balance in your drafts and then supplement them with quality IFAs. Depending on trades, the Sox could easily be in the top half of the rankings next year.

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